新系列 Knowledge Pool 要怎麼用？大家有自已的看法嗎？

[cronuspoopoo]

官網上有列了一些它可能會引發的一些疑問，我還是一頭霧水，不知道大家有什麼看法？



Magic 好難...

[hunterjob]

當你很快樂的用出這張 對手剛好打綠奧
也那麼剛好壓三張壓到了奧札奇大哥
就那麼湊巧的你就gg了

[cronuspoopoo]

如果三張都是地，那不就gg了？

[iguana]

三張都是地~
接著用咒語A~被放逐~因為沒牌用 沒事做
再用一個咒語B~被放逐~就能用剛剛被放逐的咒語A囉~
是這樣吧?

[小紅]

應該不行
可以免費施放的應該就只限於一開始被神器放逐的那3張牌
其他之後被放逐的就不會再回來了說
總之可能是搭配大杰斯很好的牌張(？)@_@
個人猜測啦=3=~

[宏鬪牲男囶]

原文出處：http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/A ... ly/ftl/126

•You may cast any other card exiled by Knowledge Pool, including one owned by an opponent. Any card exiled by Knowledge Pool's enters-the-battlefield ability or its other triggered ability may be cast.
•The spell a player casts from his or her hand won't resolve if it's exiled, even if that spell can't be countered by spells or abilities.
•If the original spell isn't exiled (perhaps because it's countered by another spell or ability before Knowledge Pool's second triggered ability resolves), the rest of the ability does nothing. The player doesn't get to cast an exiled card.
•If there are no nonland cards exiled by Knowledge Pool, the original spell is still exiled.
•You may pay additional costs, such as kicker costs, of the exiled card.
•If the card has any mandatory additional costs, as Kuldotha Rebirth does, you must pay them in order to cast the spell.
•Timing restrictions based on the card's type are ignored. For example, you can cast an exiled creature card this way. Other restrictions, such as Spinal Embrace's "Cast Spinal Embrace only during combat" are not ignored.
•If the card you cast without paying its mana cost has an X in its mana cost, you must choose 0 as its value.
•Any other abilities that trigger when you cast the original spell (for example, if you cast Emrakul, the Aeons Torn) will still trigger and go on the stack.
•If multiple Knowledge Pools are on the battlefield, keep track of which cards are exiled by each of them. Whenever a player casts a spell from his or her hand:
•If all Knowledge Pools are controlled by the same player, that player chooses the order in which the triggered abilities are put onto the stack. The last one put onto the stack will be the first to resolve.
•If multiple players each control one or more Knowledge Pools, the active player put his or her triggered abilities on the stack in any order, then each other player in turn order does the same. The last ability put onto the stack this way will be the first to resolve.
•The first triggered ability to resolve will exile the original spell, then the player who cast that spell may cast one of the nonland cards exiled by the Knowledge Pool that generated that triggered ability. The abilities of other Knowledge Pools will do nothing when they resolve, as the original spell will already have been exiled.


文章內文：
So to clarify, Knowledge Pool doesn't work solely for you. Whenever any player casts a spell, he or she gets to pick the juiciest card from the Pool and cast that instead. Meanwhile, the originally cast spell gets thrown into the Pool for potential future use.

In a two-player game, a Knowledge Pool will yield six total cards to be selected from. Diverse, no? Now imagine a five-player game. Holy smokes. Fifteen!

A hidden aspect of Knowledge Pool, looking beyond its most prominent use (casting exotic stuff for free) is that it totally takes over the game. Normally, players build decks and want to cast their spells unimpeded, right? Just ignore the second sentence of the second ability for a second.

牌內敘述：If the player does,he or she may cast another nonland card exiled with Knowledge Pool without paying that card's mana cost.
所以後來才被移除的牌A，在使用牌B時是可以被使用的！
用法大概是，六點叫下來，撲翼機、蒙那獸之類的把強招都換一換，然後手上拿著一些1點瞬間把對方想做的招式用堆疊的方式換出來來達到控制的效果吧！(因為對方假設想做A牌，他就必須先出A牌來被移除，再作B牌把他換出來，此時就可以回應B牌移除的效應作一個瞬間，把他的A牌換出來使用！)

[XYZ]

有多此一舉的感覺...
可能需要搭配某些導師把重點牌放在牌庫頂上
再做出神器..把強牌換進場
EDH的效果上或許會好一點
不然都是賭博...期待對手與你一起完成這組合技..

[被稱為元素的多多]

老威出這張
就是要考考大家的腦袋
想一些好玩的方法去使用它
大家加油吧

[iguana]

總之就是共享咒語池子就對了
一開始先各移出三張=6
之後任何玩家開始使用咒語時~就能用6張中的一張
然後自己用的就丟到池子裡
用低點數換取高點數咒語~但似乎也不一定會這麼巧...

[cronuspoopoo]

如果這張牌被凡瑟移出在移回來，池子裡就會有12張 face-up 的牌？

感覺起來這張神器牌好像並不是只有拿蒙納獸換祖神獸這麼簡單？><

[iguana]

知識之池若從場上移出遊戲
原本池子內的牌就...留在被放逐區了~
當知識之池再次進場時
會再移六張牌
之前被移出遊戲的牌~應該就不算是這個知識之池移出的了吧?

還請高手解答~
感謝樓下乳酸大大解說~
那我觀念應該沒有錯誤~之前移出的牌就當作是放逐去了~再也不能靠著這個知識之池用~

[乳酸]

你只能使用現在場上這個知識之池移出去的牌,當一個永久物重新進場都視為一個新的物件.

[魔風四少]

不過有可能自己設計好的大招被別人用去，
反正看誰瞬間多啊@@
不過可能要考驗一下腦筋急轉彎，
把各樣堆疊解開才行。

規則上說施放後放逐該咒語
意思是生物這回合下來，結算完，
進場效應發完，就進放逐區嗎?

要從knoeledge pool 上放下來的
才會留在場上是嗎?

[cronuspoopoo]

沒有進場，只有施放費用的時候，
像 萬世創傷伊莫庫 它不能被康，施放它的時候你就會得到額外的一個回合，
這些都會先觸發，它才會被移到休息區...

只是好像還有很多問題...
像 萬世創傷伊莫庫 在我的回合進休息區，對手可以施放閃電擊換伊莫庫嗎？

還有像如果 cospire 的異能 copy 了咒語，原本那張牌應該是出去了，那另一個呢？正常施放嗎？
還是一張牌進池子裡，我得到了兩個咒語，池子裡剩五張牌？@@

其他像 hideway... evoke...
如果池子裡有 不可近的飛機 ... @@!

[乳酸]

對手可以在你回合放閃電擊來施放萬世創傷伊莫庫,因為是施放還會多一回合.

知識之池寫的很清楚,只有"施放"的咒語會觸發,複製的都不會移出去.

不可近的菲姬是怎麼寫? 進場時不是從手上施放就會輸嗎? 忘記是不是了.
假如寫"手上"施放的話那就會輸,不過知識之池沒叫你去使用菲姬去搞飛機...