September 1 2008 DCI Banned and Restricted List Announcement

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REX
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September 1 2008 DCI Banned and Restricted List Announcement

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Extended
Sensei's Divining Top is banned :roll:

這一天果然到了....
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安‧心‧上‧路!
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輪到它了嗎.........囧
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陀螺掰掰
Play the game,
see the hell!
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文章 要暱稱很麻煩 »

既然被禁一定有原因,能否為我點破一下這張牌可怕地方在哪?
因為它的濾牌能力?還是說有什麼combo...
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要暱稱很麻煩 寫:既然被禁一定有原因,能否為我點破一下這張牌可怕地方在哪?
因為它的濾牌能力?還是說有什麼combo...
countertop

占卜陀螺+counterbalance
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可以來收counterbalance了
既然好搭檔被禁
價格應該會跌
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所謂:得陀螺者,得天下
陀螺確實太強了

禁的好!

禁陀螺的第二個理由是,它嚴重拖慢了比賽的節奏
回合結束,陀螺一下,大概就要看個一、兩分鐘
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會禁陀螺的原因有幾點:

1.裁判體力不好,無法支撐因為莫名多了一個小時的比賽
2.裁判肚子會餓,再不下班judge dinner的菜會冷掉
3.場租要錢的,玩家拖太久DCI還要多付場租…
4.每一局都拖個十來分鐘玩家也會起杜爛,禁掉順便可以平息玩家的怒火

所以,一禁天下太平。
真是可喜可賀,可喜可賀…
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回合結束前... 看三張

(5 min later)

維持抽牌... 看三張

(5 min later)

zzzz 對手睡著了....
我不玩了~~
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mtgbb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2553 手牌優勢與節奏導讀
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這...因為現實因素被禁

大概是第一個吧
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http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/A ... daily/ld/2

Extended

For many readers, the biggest surprise to come out of the recent announcement was the decision to ban Sensei’s Divining Top in Extended. Making the decision to remove a card from an environment completely is never something taken lightly, and this time was no exception. Sensei's Divining Top caught the eye of Organized Play as being a potential problem during the Qualifier season for Pro Tour–Hollywood, but ultimately the decision was to monitor Top’s performance through the season and reconvene on the matter later in the year.
Sensei's Divining Top

Ultimately Top 8s throughout the season were littered with the one-cost artifact either in conjunction with Counterbalance to lock opponents out of games, Trinket Mage to be found reliably, or (and usually in addition to) Onslaught’s sac-lands to allow players to shuffle away cards they didn’t wish to draw while peeking at a fresh set of three cards. Such a pervasive performance during a single season created a different problem as well: it made tournaments take too much time.

The constant activating of Divining Top bogs games down, which ultimately leads to an increase in the number of matches that go to time and beyond, which in turn leads to tournaments running much longer than they have historically. Furthermore, the Top encourages players to maximize the number of shuffle effects they play in a deck and the constant shuffling, cutting, presenting to an opponent to repeat the process, and then continuation of a turn exacerbated the situation. In the past the DCI has banned such cards on those grounds alone (Shahrazad is a good example of this, with Land Tax and Thawing Glaciers also having been banned for similar reasons) but in conjunction with the Top’s popularity during the last Extended PTQ season, the decision was to ban the card from the format it was harming.
我不玩了~~
誰是強攻
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mtgbb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2553 手牌優勢與節奏導讀
mtgbb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6417 玩牌趨勢﹝metagame﹞的前十個錯誤
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