標準(洛溫~新生~M10) 藍黑仙靈 Faeries, 2009 Japan National Top 8

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標準(洛溫~新生~M10) 藍黑仙靈 Faeries, 2009 Japan National Top 8

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GP Seattle Top 8
http://mtgbb.com/mtg/viewtopic.php?f=5& ... 15#p237208

GP Barcelona 2009 Top 8
http://mtgbb.com/mtg/viewtopic.php?f=5& ... =a#p237092

生物
圖檔

圖檔 圖檔

圖檔 圖檔

康牌
圖檔 圖檔
圖檔 圖檔

殺牌
圖檔 圖檔 圖檔

掉牌
圖檔

結界
圖檔

抽牌
圖檔

變生物的地牌
圖檔 圖檔

產雙色的地牌
圖檔 圖檔 圖檔

Paulo Vitor Damo da Rosa
2008 Worlds Top 8
Main Deck

60 cards

1 Faerie Conclave
6 Island
4 Mutavault
4 Secluded Glen
4 Sunken Ruins
3 Swamp
4 Underground River
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26 lands

4 Mistbind Clique
4 Scion of Oona
3 Sower of Temptation
4 Spellstutter Sprite
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15 creatures

2 Agony Warp
4 Bitterblossom
4 Broken Ambitions
4 Cryptic Command
1 Remove Soul
2 Terror
2 Thoughtseize
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19 other spells

Sideboard
1 Agony Warp
2 Flashfreeze
2 Infest
3 Jace Beleren
1 Sower of Temptation
4 Stillmoon Cavalier
2 Thoughtseize
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15 sideboard cards

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Re: [標準][LOR~SOA] Faerie

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Antti Malin
2008 Worlds Top 8
Main Deck

60 cards

1 Faerie Conclave
6 Island
4 Mutavault
4 Secluded Glen
4 Sunken Ruins
2 Swamp
4 Underground River
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25 lands

4 Mistbind Clique
2 Sower of Temptation
4 Spellstutter Sprite
2 Vendilion Clique
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12 creatures

4 Agony Warp
4 Bitterblossom
3 Broken Ambitions
4 Cryptic Command
3 Remove Soul
1 Terror
4 Thoughtseize
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23 other spells

Sideboard
4 Flashfreeze
2 Glen Elendra Archmage
4 Infest
2 Jace Beleren
1 Mind Shatter
1 Ponder
1 Sower of Temptation
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15 sideboard cards
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Re: [標準][LOR~SOA] Faerie

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Akira Asahara
2008 Worlds Top 8
Main Deck

60 cards

4 Faerie Conclave
3 Island
4 Mutavault
4 Secluded Glen
4 Sunken Ruins
2 Swamp
4 Underground River
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25 lands

4 Mistbind Clique
4 Scion of Oona
2 Sower of Temptation
4 Spellstutter Sprite
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14 creatures

2 Agony Warp
4 Bitterblossom
3 Broken Ambitions
4 Cryptic Command
2 Jace Beleren
4 Peppersmoke
2 Terror
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21 other spells

Sideboard
1 Agony Warp
2 Flashfreeze
2 Puppeteer Clique
2 Sower of Temptation
4 Stillmoon Cavalier
1 Terror
3 Thoughtseize
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15 sideboard cards
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Re: [標準][LOR~SOA] Faerie

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Frank Karsten
2008 Worlds Top 8
Main Deck

60 cards

2 Faerie Conclave
5 Island
4 Mutavault
4 Secluded Glen
4 Sunken Ruins
2 Swamp
4 Underground River
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25 lands

4 Mistbind Clique
4 Scion of Oona
2 Sower of Temptation
4 Spellstutter Sprite
1 Vendilion Clique
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15 creatures

4 Agony Warp
4 Bitterblossom
1 Broken Ambitions
4 Cryptic Command
1 Jace Beleren
1 Loxodon Warhammer
1 Ponder
2 Remove Soul
2 Thoughtseize
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20 other spells

Sideboard
1 Fathom Trawl
2 Flashfreeze
1 Glen Elendra Archmage
4 Infest
1 Negate
1 Peppersmoke
2 Sower of Temptation
1 Terror
2 Thoughtseize
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15 sideboard cards
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Re: [標準][LOR~SOA] Faerie

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Kenji Tsumura
2008 Worlds Top 8
Main Deck

60 cards

1 Faerie Conclave
5 Island
4 Mutavault
4 Secluded Glen
4 Sunken Ruins
3 Swamp
4 Underground River
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25 lands

4 Mistbind Clique
4 Scion of Oona
4 Spellstutter Sprite
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12 creatures

4 Agony Warp
4 Bitterblossom
4 Broken Ambitions
4 Cryptic Command
3 Jace Beleren
4 Thoughtseize
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23 other spells

Sideboard
2 Curse of Chains
3 Flashfreeze
3 Infest
2 Liliana Vess
1 Oona, Queen of the Fae
2 Puppeteer Clique
2 Terror
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15 sideboard cards
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Re: [標準][LOR~SOA] Faerie

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Masashi Oiso
2008 World Championships, 6-0 Standard
Main Deck

60 cards

2 Faerie Conclave
5 Island
4 Mutavault
4 Secluded Glen
4 Sunken Ruins
3 Swamp
3 Underground River
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25 lands

4 Mistbind Clique
4 Scion of Oona
2 Sower of Temptation
4 Spellstutter Sprite
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14 creatures

4 Agony Warp
4 Bitterblossom
3 Broken Ambitions
4 Cryptic Command
3 Jace Beleren
3 Thoughtseize
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21 other spells

Sideboard
4 Flashfreeze
1 Jace Beleren
3 Peppersmoke
2 Puppeteer Clique
2 Sower of Temptation
2 Terror
1 Thoughtseize
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15 sideboard cards

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/A ... ddecksday1
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Re: [標準][LOR~SOA] Faerie

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Justin Cheung
2008 World Championships, 6-0 Standard
Main Deck

60 cards

2 Faerie Conclave
4 Island
4 Mutavault
4 Secluded Glen
4 Sunken Ruins
3 Swamp
4 Underground River
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25 lands

4 Mistbind Clique
3 Scion of Oona
2 Sower of Temptation
4 Spellstutter Sprite
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13 creatures

4 Agony Warp
4 Bitterblossom
3 Broken Ambitions
4 Cryptic Command
2 Jace Beleren
1 Loxodon Warhammer
4 Thoughtseize
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22 other spells

Sideboard
3 Flashfreeze
2 Glen Elendra Archmage
4 Infest
2 Mind Shatter
2 Negate
1 Sower of Temptation
1 Terror
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15 sideboard cards

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/A ... ddecksday1
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Re: [標準][LOR~SOA] Faerie

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Akira Asahara
2008 World Championships, 6-0 Standard
Main Deck

60 cards

4 Faerie Conclave
3 Island
4 Mutavault
4 Secluded Glen
4 Sunken Ruins
2 Swamp
4 Underground River
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25 lands

4 Mistbind Clique
4 Scion of Oona
2 Sower of Temptation
4 Spellstutter Sprite
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
14 creatures

2 Agony Warp
4 Bitterblossom
3 Broken Ambitions
4 Cryptic Command
2 Jace Beleren
4 Peppersmoke
2 Terror
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
21 other spells

Sideboard
1 Agony Warp
2 Flashfreeze
2 Puppeteer Clique
2 Sower of Temptation
4 Stillmoon Cavalier
1 Terror
3 Thoughtseize
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15 sideboard cards

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/A ... ddecksday1
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Re: [標準][LOR~SOA] Faerie

文章 twn_domn »

Are you spamming this board? Have you considered combining all the standard lists and extended lists together into couple threads?
我不玩了~~
誰是強攻
魔風機率
mtgbb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2553 手牌優勢與節奏導讀
mtgbb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6417 玩牌趨勢﹝metagame﹞的前十個錯誤
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Re: [標準][LOR~SOA][賽場主流1st] Faerie 藍黑仙靈

文章 PeterZhuang »

試著瞭解備牌:
Flashfreeze, 2點康紅綠 -> RDW, Cruel Control,
Stillmoon Cavalier, 反黑反白 -> Kithkin
Jace Beleren, 大家抽牌 -> Cruel Control
Glen Elendra Archmage, 兩次康非生物 -> Cruel Control
Thoughtseize, 掉牌 -> Cruel Control
Peppersmoke, 目標-1/-1抽1張 -> Figure, Ghitu,
Negate -> need more counter non-creature !!
Terror -> need more destroy non-black creature !!

Puppeteer Clique -> catch demigod 是嗎??

請問若是上備牌Infest, 通常會換下哪張牌呢??
Scion of Oona ? 誰叫它是仙靈生物中最微不足道的><
Broken Ambitions ? 不易康cc小的spell, 直接換Infest全-2/-2

謝謝,
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Re: [標準][LOR~SOA][賽場主流1st] Faerie 藍黑仙靈

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建構屬於自己的藍黑仙靈,

基本雛型:

Creature (8)
4 x Mistbind Clique
4 x Spellstutter Sprite

Spells (8)
4 x Bitterblossom
4 x Cryptic Command

Land (24~25)
2 x Faerie Conclave
4 x Mutavault
2 x Swamp

加入殺牌
Agony Warp (2cc, target -3, target -3) (謝謝指正)
Nameless Inversion (2cc, target +3/-3, and +3 for Mistbind Clique)
Terror (2cc, non-black)
Eyeblight's Ending (3cc, non-elf, for demigod)

加入康牌
Remove Soul
Broken Ambitions
Negate
Flashfreeze
Glen Elendra Archmage

加入抽牌
Ponder
Jace Beleren
Oona's Grace (instant draw)
Tidings (5cc good draw)
Fathom Trawl (5cc good draw)

加入生物
Scion of Oona (max=4)
Sower of Temptation (max=2)
Vendilion Clique (max=2)

最後帶個
Loxodon Warhammer (max=1)

好菜上桌~~

PS : 價格不匪, 請謹慎行事
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Re: [標準][LOR~SOA][賽場主流1st] Faerie 藍黑仙靈

文章 andy9999 »

晚上睡不著,無聊回一下...
PeterZhuang 寫: 加入殺牌
Agony Warp (2cc, target +3, target -3)
應該是攻擊力-3 和 防禦力-3
PeterZhuang 寫: Nameless Inversion (2cc, target +3/-3, and +3 for Mistbind Clique)
基本上有了Agony Warp,我不會考慮放Nameless Inversion
Agony Warp有一換二的實力,增加一些仙靈原本貧弱的殺招
PeterZhuang 寫: Terror (2cc, non-black)
可以考慮正編、SB各放兩張
PeterZhuang 寫: Eyeblight's Ending (3cc, non-elf, for demigod)

加入康牌
Remove Soul
Broken Ambitions
Negate
Flashfreeze
Glen Elendra Archmage

加入抽牌
Ponder
Jace Beleren
Oona's Grace (instant draw)
Tidings (5cc good draw)
Fathom Trawl (5cc good draw)

加入生物
Scion of Oona (max=4)
Sower of Temptation (max=2)
Vendilion Clique (max=2)

最後帶個
Loxodon Warhammer (max=1)
如果要我組的話,應該會如下LIST

4 Mistbind Clique
3 Scion of Oona
4 Spellstutter Sprite
3 Pestermite
2 Vendilion Clique
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16 creatures

4 Bitterblossom
4 Broken Ambitions
4 Cryptic Command
3 Esper Charm
2 Agony Warp
2 Terror
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19 other spells

25 lands

基本上,我是比較傾向DECK全部都是FLASH生物和瞬間咒語
個人還滿喜歡Pestermite,不過好像沒人想用... Pestermite功能
1.拖對手節奏(Tap地) 2.橫置反黑生物(拖命) 3.初期的攻擊力來源 4.Mistbind Clique Champion用

Scion of Oona,我覺得這隻還重要的...
由苦花生出一堆1/1仙靈,在Scion of Oona加持下,通常1、2拳就可以打爆對手了
若是沒有Scion of Oona,只想靠Mistbind Clique打爆對手也太慢了...
仙靈的康牌也是會有用完的時候
而且不能被瞄的特性,也是蠻陰人的

抓抓人,和康非生物仙靈我會放SB
抽牌手段靠Esper Charm瞬間抽兩張
必要時也可以掉對手手牌

Thoughtseize對仙靈很痛,尤其是第一回合下痛地使用
起手摸到2-3張,真的會很想哭
除非對手也很衰,不然初期對手下隻小生物就夠瞧的了
個人是傾向把Thoughtseize放SB

當然,還是要多練習,調出自己喜歡的類型...
不負責任的淺見...
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Re: [標準][LOR~SOA][賽場主流1st][奢華] Faerie 藍黑仙靈

文章 tIM »

個人認為
Esper Charm是張強排
但應該不會在先靈DECK出現
畢竟為了它放白色MANA源
讓自己多了一種調度的機會
抽牌還是以Ponder,Jace Beleren這些點數小且較為單純的抽排為好

Thoughtseize感覺在現在的賽場有適合放正編的趨勢
一來先靈和多色控變多
二來對白快紅快等快攻型套排多半也可以用兩滴血來防止更大的傷害
不過正編應該也不會放滿就是了

殺排方面,我會選擇Agony Warp正邊放滿,Terror放SB
現在大部分的生物-3/-3就可以解決了
剩下的有一半用-3/-3加一之1/1先靈也可以換掉
再加上Agony Warp可以一換二
我覺得以先靈來說,比Terror好用

至於Scion of Oona個人不是很喜歡這張牌
畢竟他如果單獨在場上,感覺很虛
感覺可以直接放抓人先靈(抓對面的先靈王XD)和薇安流取代
抓人先靈有時候還可以順便當一張殺
當然這存脆是個人喜好



以上為個人的拙見
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Re: T2[洛溫~聚流] Faerie 藍黑仙靈

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Re: 標準(洛溫~新生) 藍黑仙靈 Faeries, GP Barcelona 2009 Top 8

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2009年5月巴賽隆納GP八強,

操弄靈魂(Soul Manipulation)是張很棒的C卡藍command^^

Main Deck

60 cards
1 Faerie Conclave
6 Island
4 Mutavault
4 Secluded Glen
4 Sunken Ruins
4 Swamp
2 Underground River
25 lands

4 Mistbind Clique
4 Scion of Oona
1 Sower of Temptation
4 Spellstutter Sprite
13 creatures

3 Agony Warp
4 Bitterblossom
3 Broken Ambitions
4 Cryptic Command
2 Jace Beleren
3 Peppersmoke
1 Soul Manipulation
2 Terror
22 other spells

Sideboard
1 Broken Ambitions
2 Countersquall
2 Glen Elendra Archmage
2 Infest
1 Jace Beleren
1 Puppeteer Clique
2 Sower of Temptation
4 Thoughtseize
15 sideboard cards

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