[擴充]UG心之所欲

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twn_domn
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[擴充]UG心之所欲

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10 Island
12 Forest
4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
4 Serum Visions
4 Cunning Wish 黠智祈願
4 Nostalgic Dreams 思鄉之夢
4 Heartbeat of Spring 春之鼓動
4 Wild Growth 野地叢生
3 Mind's Desire 心之所欲
1 Rampant Growth 徒長
3 Early Harvest 提早收成
3 Fact or Fiction 真偽莫辨
3 Deep Analysis 深入分析
1 Brain Freeze 腦凍結

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基本上,春之鼓動和提早收成是這套牌最重要的引擎。一張腦凍結看似很少,其實是夠的。但是要如何不斷的繼續抽下去,除了心之所欲外,黠智祈願與真偽莫辨也很重要。一般是在第四回合啟動,穩定性不錯。
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lcd545
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nice idea

I am wondering if you can use witness, kodama's reach, gifts, nightscape familiars ( if you willing to splash black) Tops. Some fetch lands and the Rav Dual Lands. Telling times, though no brain storm... Explosive Vegitation to a lesser extent( if you have some cost reduction)

If you splash black tedrils of agony and night scape familiar can be at you disposal. Beside having green is not hard to find a swamp. With fetch lands you can grab the dual lands. So I think UBG desire is plausible. or splash white, so you have cost reduction on both blue and green.

One cheap trick you also can use is the tops. lets say you have two tops in play. use top A's draw ability to get a card the use the other top's to get the top A. Basically there is a cycle to generate copies for storms much efficient. Unless someone pin you down with the pithing needle. I find this while i was building a desire months ago.


So far that's about it. My comment is just for brainstorm. Ultimately you decide what the will be. Have fun.
Ravnica
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twn_domn
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The card drawing post rotation is just too weak to keep it going. UG has proven that it's the way to go. UB is almost impossible at this point.
我不玩了~~
誰是強攻
魔風機率
mtgbb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2553 手牌優勢與節奏導讀
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lcd545
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well i was not really talking about blue black ,but blue black and green. Anyway it turns out bad... for me. So i splashed white for the 3~4 sunscape familiars. They aren't necessary, but some what effective. some good draws might be good is Thist for Knowledge (add few mox and / or tops). or an opportunity at sb. I know it cost 6, but maybe with heartbeat it wont be a big issue.

My idea for a ug desire is flush the lands out asap so 1. you have a good amount of resource and 2. less chance to desire out lands.

so what you think?
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twn_domn
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To flush the lands out: 1. Sakura-Tribe Elder 2. Wild Growth 3. fetchland.

It's already working.

The only key difference in this version and pre-rotation is the mana reducer. You simply don't need it here.

You also need to be aware of blue decks when you play mind's desire, but that is true in general.

The step to win for this version is:
1. Get to 3 lands in play ASAP.
2. Drop Heartbeat.
3. Go off with Mind's desire and Early Harvest.
4. Play FoF and Early Harvest for free and keep going.
5. Brainfreeze with the kill.
我不玩了~~
誰是強攻
魔風機率
mtgbb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2553 手牌優勢與節奏導讀
mtgbb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6417 玩牌趨勢﹝metagame﹞的前十個錯誤
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Thunder
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這一套~其實把desire+fof換成gifts engine然後直接飆storm count會更穩~另外main deck最好有2-3moments peaceㄝ不然很容易被affinity+goblin衝暴
尤其是你drop heart beat的那一回合~
This was never what I expected, but after so much, here I am.
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twn_domn
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其實 step 2 和 step 3 可以同一回合做到。

Heartbeat + early harvest 就能存魔法力和站起來的地。

如果從general的角度看,組合技本來就應該贏快攻。moment's peace片刻寧靜對快攻才有用,對控制就廢掉了。如果正編,有點本末倒置。反正可以藍願它。
我不玩了~~
誰是強攻
魔風機率
mtgbb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2553 手牌優勢與節奏導讀
mtgbb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6417 玩牌趨勢﹝metagame﹞的前十個錯誤
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Thunder
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問題是現在ext meta將是aggro當道~而且你如果把step 2 和 step 3同一回合做最快四回還不算disruption~很多aggro已經可以衝20滴ㄌ~
This was never what I expected, but after so much, here I am.
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毒契男
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twn_domn 寫:其實 step 2 和 step 3 可以同一回合做到。

Heartbeat + early harvest 就能存魔法力和站起來的地。

如果從general的角度看,組合技本來就應該贏快攻。moment's peace片刻寧靜對快攻才有用,對控制就廢掉了。?..
片刻寧靜如果還用藍願的話,
就真的慢上加慢了...
"一個成功的組合技需要三要素:
快、穩、狠。任何達不到上列的組合技只能拿去給車撞,或是給鬼怪撞"
你自己說的呀^^:
而且我覺得加點控制或正編片刻寧靜比較穩,
畢竟鬼怪也會sb
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twn_domn
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也可以參考今年 PT 的版本:

Pro Tour-Los Angeles 2005 Top 8
12 Forest
10 Island
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22 land

4 Sakura-Tribe Elder
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4 creatures

4 Mind's Desire
4 Gifts Ungiven
4 Cunning Wish
4 Heartbeat of Spring
4 Nostalgic Dreams
3 Early Harvest
3 Fact or Fiction
2 Rampant Growth
2 Moment's Peace
1 Deep Analysis
1 Revive
1 Brain Freeze
1 Echoing Truth
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34 other spells
我不玩了~~
誰是強攻
魔風機率
mtgbb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2553 手牌優勢與節奏導讀
mtgbb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=6417 玩牌趨勢﹝metagame﹞的前十個錯誤
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毒契男
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twn_domn 寫:也可以參考今年 PT 的版本:

Pro Tour-Los Angeles 2005 Top 8
12 Forest
10 Island
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22 land

4 Sakura-Tribe Elde...
pt的那個小胖子
很厲害...想得真仔細...
聽說他這兩天在pt裡moment』s peace的運很旺...
我覺得這次pt把gift打出他的價值來了
每一次四強裡基乎都有gift而且每一次壓力都有夠大...
life of the loam也是好強...配上那些門檻地...
(抱歉離題了@_@)
TEN TEN MORNING NINE TALL, HOW HOW ONE XD
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