[擴充]犧牲生物揍人

[laipili]

請問以下兩個組合技是否合法
1. Phyrexian Dreadnought+ Fling
Phyrexian Dreadnought
Artifact Creature - Dreadnought 12/12, 1 (1)
Trample
When Phyrexian Dreadnought comes into play, sacrifice it unless you sacrifice any number of creatures with total power 12 or greater.1

Fling Instant, 1R (2)
As an additional cost to play Fling, sacrifice a creature.
Fling deals damage equal to the sacrificed creature's power to target creature or player.1

先下　Phyrexian Dreadnought ,
當Phyrexian Dreadnought 進場, 此時已經在場上了,
觸發本身異能並放入stack：sacrifice it unless you sacrifice any number of creatures with total power 12 or greater.1


接下來使用 Fling(As an additional cost to play Fling, sacrifice a creature.
Fling deals damage equal to the sacrificed creature's power to target creature or player.1
)
犧牲掉已經在場上的Phyrexian Dreadnought
由於　Fling　效應會先發生, 所以對目標玩家造成12點傷害

請問我這種用法是否有成立呢？請高手指教 thanks

　　
2. Phyrexian Dreadnought+ Pandemonium
Pandemonium
Enchantment, 3R (4)
Whenever a creature comes into play, that creature's controller may have it deal damage equal to its power to target creature or player of his or her choice.1

先下 Pandemonium
在下　Phyrexian Dreadnought　觸發本身異能並放入stack：sacrifice it unless you sacrifice any number of creatures with total power 12 or greater.1

我決定異能先後順序:
先對對方玩家造成傷害
再犧牲Phyrexian Dreadnought

請問我這種用法是否有成立呢？請高手指教 thanks

[twn_domn]

1. 這不是擴充組合技, 這是古典/legacy薪傳組合技

2. 你要問問題, 請到問題釋疑區

3. 我認為兩個情況都是成立的

[呆呆冷湛]

沒關係啦，不然這邊很乾捏...

關於組合技的任何事項都歡迎在這邊發文喔~

Q_Q 話說最近組合技實在有點枯竭掉了，乾脆來貼些輪抽現開常用的小組合技好了..T^T

[bluenight]

恩.....好個pili 想搞秒殺阿